tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7633265628054619928.post3495282912345484359..comments2023-10-31T16:05:58.638+00:00Comments on Broken Trails: A Place In TimeRayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18154296143024548830noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7633265628054619928.post-63559725906207628382008-10-20T11:21:00.000+01:002008-10-20T11:21:00.000+01:00David - thanks for the link it proved useful and I...David - thanks for the link it proved useful and I felt that it backed up what I was saying about 'not in common useage'.<BR/><BR/>Gary - I don't know if the transcript of the Trial of Lady Chatterley is on line but I do believe that it was mentioned that the words were used by Chaucer and a quote from Shakespeare 'He doth spell sunt with a 'c'' but I've forgotten where that comes from.<BR/>Lawrence wrote 'Lady Chatterley' back in the 1920s but no English publisher would touch it - it was published in Paris and, promptly, banned over here.<BR/>Whichever way you look at it Chaucer, Shakespeare and Lawrence used the words in their proper context and not as swear words.<BR/><BR/>Keith - I agree with you but, for some reason it's those two words that bug me. Maybe, it's because either a) they're in common useage that no one would notice or b) that they turn up in war movies etc that it is 'assumed' that they were used at the time.Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154296143024548830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7633265628054619928.post-9785308709983412922008-10-20T01:51:00.000+01:002008-10-20T01:51:00.000+01:00You're right, and it's by no means limited to F an...You're right, and it's by no means limited to F and C words. One BHW writer doesn't use these, but he does regularly have bunches of lookalike, talkalike outlaws mouthing street-slang terms of a much later era. And his lawmen heroes talk about "scams" as they unravel the convoluted, twist and twist again plots.<BR/><BR/>It's not a new problem. Some western writers in the 1940s and '50s used gangster slang of that time in the same way: "dames" . . . aaargh!<BR/><BR/>All I can suggest, Ray, is that you avoid the writers whose choice of words irritates you. Fortunately, the BHW series offers plenty of variety, though it is sometimes annoying to find yourself fooled by a new pen-name into picking up a book by an author you were trying to avoid!<BR/><BR/>KeithChap O'Keefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04404176810063857291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7633265628054619928.post-82449325476585134062008-10-20T00:52:00.000+01:002008-10-20T00:52:00.000+01:00Interesting argument, Ray. I'm going to try and fi...Interesting argument, Ray. I'm going to try and find out where the F word was first used in film/book.Gary Dobbs/Jack Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935686140719743351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7633265628054619928.post-5928408818159201122008-10-19T18:29:00.000+01:002008-10-19T18:29:00.000+01:00I couldn't agree more on the use of these words. Y...I couldn't agree more on the use of these words. Your post got me buzzin' cyberspace looking for an answer to the origin of one and I came across this: http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.aspDavid Cranmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04749857752139212888noreply@blogger.com